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Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2026
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Within the grooming section, change "The cat's tongue has backward-facing spines about 0.5 millimeter long, called lingual papillae, which contain keratin making them rigid" to "The cat's tongue has backward-facing spines about 0.5 millimeter long, called filiform papillae, which contain keratin making them rigid"
This will correct the mistake and aline with the given source provided as evidence for this fact. Thank you Irish Violet (talk) 01:27, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Done – LuniZunie(talk) 16:13, 10 April 2026 (UTC)- Shouldn't it also be "millimeters" and not "millimeter"? ClownPierce number 1 fan (talk) 07:00, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- It is not more than one millimeter long. Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 07:39, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, but 0<1, and it's still "0 millimeters". ClownPierce number 1 fan (talk) 07:44, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- English plurals#Decimals are always plural Decimals are always Plural. King kobra2 (talk) 05:04, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- fixed. Meters (talk) 05:10, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- It is not more than one millimeter long. Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 07:39, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
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Edit Request - Subject: Proposal to update conflicting nDNA/mtDNA phylogeny trees with unified consensus cladogram
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Request[edit]Please remove the two conflicting text trees in the "Phylogeny" subsection of the Evolution section, then replace with the following single consensus tree and clarifying note: The consensus phylogenetic relationships of the genus Felis based on modern multi-locus and ancient genomic mapping are shown in the following cladogram:[1] While automated, genus-wide alignments of raw nuclear DNA can mathematically cluster F. catus next to F. silvestris due to ancestral incomplete lineage sorting and Pleistocene-era gene flow, targeted high-resolution regional sequencing confirms that both nuclear and maternal mitochondrial DNA consistently pair the domestic cat directly with its true ancestor, the North African / Near Eastern wildcat subspecies (Felis lybica lybica).[1] Rationale[edit]Currently, the page displays two text-based ASCII cladograms that directly contradict each other—one showing the domestic cat as a sister taxon to the European wildcat (F. silvestris) via nuclear DNA and another showing it as sister to the African wildcat (F. lybica) via mitochondrial DNA. As currently formatted, this presentation can be highly misleading to general readers. While early automated, genus-wide alignments of raw nDNA generated a tree clustering F. catus and F. silvestris, modern ancient genomics has demonstrated that this specific topology is a computational artifact. It is caused by deep ancestral incomplete lineage sorting and Pleistocene-era geographic hybridization, which artificially skew broad-scale algorithmic models when regional data isn't carefully partitioned. Recent landmark whole-genome sequencing published in Science (Ottoni et al., 2025) explicitly demonstrates that when specific regional lineages are accounted for, both nuclear and mitochondrial data align seamlessly, solidifying Felis lybica lybica as the sole true ancestor of the domestic cat. I propose replacing the two conflicting text trees with a single, universally accepted consensus tree along with a brief, fact-focused clarifying note underneath. ~2026-50877-42 (talk) 00:12, 21 September 2026 (UTC) References
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Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Day Creature (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
Edit Request: remove incorrect statement from Evolution section
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Text to be REMOVED
[edit]"Since there is no evidence of native mammalian fauna on Cyprus, the inhabitants of this village most likely brought the cat and other wild mammals to the island from the West Asian mainland."
Text to be ADDED
[edit]"Since there is no evidence of native cat species on Cyprus, the inhabitants most likely brought wild cats (Felis lybica) from the West Asian mainland."
Rationale
[edit]The original text is factually incorrect because prehistoric Cyprus did possess native mammalian fauna (such as endemic dwarf elephants and pygmy hippopotamuses). The lack of native fauna applies strictly to wild felines, which is why ancient humans had to transport them to the island.
~2026-50877-42 (talk) 01:56, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
Already done Day Creature (talk) 23:59, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
Lead image: Single image vs montage
[edit]Over on Talk:Dog, it appears editors reached agreement that a single lead image is better than a montage, despite the fact both cats and dogs come in a wide range of sizes, morphologies and colors. I would support switching the lead image montage to a single image - perhaps the one on the top left, which is used as the article's thumbnail (since it is in the image1 position). Agreed? Jtrevor99 (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- Using a Siamese cat (a pedigree that represents less than 0.1% of the cat population) is a terrible choice for a sole-lead image. There is no consensus at the dog article yet and the montage remains there. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:40, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- There is local consensus at Talk:Dog, and that Siamese photo apparently was sufficient to be put first in the lineup so that it is used as the article's thumbnail. No single photo can represent the full diversity of this animal, or even a sizable minority. Yet I still posit a single photo is superior to a montage. Choosing a photo that is representative of, say, 5% of the population - which, depending on one's definition, may be the highest percentage we can find - has no inherent benefit over one that represents 0.1%, so rejecting it due to percentages is not a valid argument. (What about tabbies, you might say? They are roughly 80% of the population. Well, what color then? There are at least eight primary tabby color groups. What about pattern? There are at least five. What about male or female? Collar or no collar? Polydactyl or not? Elderly, adult, half-grown or kitten? Pose? Location? Domesticated or feral? Portly, athletic, skinny...? No, no photo can fully represent the population, yet it is possible a single photo is better than a collection, and I'm interested in opinions on this point.) Jtrevor99 (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- That is a great argument not to alter the lead images. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:03, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- ...unless a single photo is preferred to a montage, which is the entire reason to have this discussion, and the entire reason it occurred at Talk:Dog. Jtrevor99 (talk) 20:06, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- That is a great argument not to alter the lead images. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:03, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- There is local consensus at Talk:Dog, and that Siamese photo apparently was sufficient to be put first in the lineup so that it is used as the article's thumbnail. No single photo can represent the full diversity of this animal, or even a sizable minority. Yet I still posit a single photo is superior to a montage. Choosing a photo that is representative of, say, 5% of the population - which, depending on one's definition, may be the highest percentage we can find - has no inherent benefit over one that represents 0.1%, so rejecting it due to percentages is not a valid argument. (What about tabbies, you might say? They are roughly 80% of the population. Well, what color then? There are at least eight primary tabby color groups. What about pattern? There are at least five. What about male or female? Collar or no collar? Polydactyl or not? Elderly, adult, half-grown or kitten? Pose? Location? Domesticated or feral? Portly, athletic, skinny...? No, no photo can fully represent the population, yet it is possible a single photo is better than a collection, and I'm interested in opinions on this point.) Jtrevor99 (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2026 (UTC)
- Mildly oppose switching to a single image. I can understand for Dog, the 3x3 grid does feel a little cluttered, but the 2x3 vertical montage for Cat feels pretty comfy to me, and I like the way it's laid out; it feels very encyclopedic. (Maybe set up an RfC on Talk:Dog and add an option to switch to a similar vertical montage?) If it ends up being decided that a single image is preferred here, I like the one of the tabby in the snow. It has good contrast and a clear silhouette. Semisalsa (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The fact that another article chose a different format is a poor reason to make changes, unless it makes for a clear improvement. I don't think you've made a case that it will improve this article. Mediatech492 (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- I did not purport to make a case of any kind, nor did I give the discussion on another article as a reason to change. I merely reported it for discussion. Jtrevor99 (talk) 18:12, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
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