User talk:Keylanweylan
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Happy editing! Raskuly 🐰 06:22, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
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[edit]Unless an article has been blocked from being recreated there is no restriction on recreating it as long as you can establish that it meets WP:NOTABILITY guidelines. Various topics have their own criteria for notability. I could give my opinion about whether or not the article you want to write may meet notability guidelines, but I cannot suggest a new page reviewer who would be willing to approve it. There are certainly differences in opinion between reviewers–some are more inclusionist (or liberal) with what they deem notable, and others are more deletionist (or conservative) with what they deem to be notable.
Regarding your minor edits, I would be a bit more careful using the minor edit button. See WP:MINOR. You've added categories for instance while marking it as minor, and that is not the purpose of a minor edit. Anyway, I wish you well on your editing journey. Raskuly 🐰 12:52, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Ok here is the page, Border Brothers, I don't know how to check if its been blocked or not but I have over 7 reliable sources I could use for it so I believe it fits the notability guidelines. Keylanweylan (talk) 20:18, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- I assume Border Brothers refers to the gang. It cannot be recreated as it has been blocked from recreation by @Shirt58. You can however try to get that reversed by following the instructions at WP:SALT. Creating a draft of the article, either at Draft:Border Brothers or your sandbox would increase your chances of it succeeding. Raskuly 🐰 20:55, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- If I do this accurately would you be able to help me reach out to Shirt58 and convince them to unblock it? Keylanweylan (talk) 21:01, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- You can just bring it up on their talk page. Unless I see something tangible that seems to meet the notability guidelines, I'm not going to advocate for it. There is a lot of context I am missing about why the page was protected from being recreated in the first place as well. Raskuly 🐰 21:14, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a way to see the prior archived articles before their deletion so I can get an idea of what was written previously? Keylanweylan (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- No, the article cannot be retrieved if it has been deleted. I also checked the Wayback Machine (and a previous draft which was also deleted) and there was nothing there. You'll just have to ask Shirt58 about it and see what they know. Raskuly 🐰 22:12, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Ok will do, thanks for the insight Keylanweylan (talk) 19:44, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- No, the article cannot be retrieved if it has been deleted. I also checked the Wayback Machine (and a previous draft which was also deleted) and there was nothing there. You'll just have to ask Shirt58 about it and see what they know. Raskuly 🐰 22:12, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a way to see the prior archived articles before their deletion so I can get an idea of what was written previously? Keylanweylan (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- You can just bring it up on their talk page. Unless I see something tangible that seems to meet the notability guidelines, I'm not going to advocate for it. There is a lot of context I am missing about why the page was protected from being recreated in the first place as well. Raskuly 🐰 21:14, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- If I do this accurately would you be able to help me reach out to Shirt58 and convince them to unblock it? Keylanweylan (talk) 21:01, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- I assume Border Brothers refers to the gang. It cannot be recreated as it has been blocked from recreation by @Shirt58. You can however try to get that reversed by following the instructions at WP:SALT. Creating a draft of the article, either at Draft:Border Brothers or your sandbox would increase your chances of it succeeding. Raskuly 🐰 20:55, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Notes as of 29 Jun 2026
[edit]- @Keylanweylan, Raskuly, Gautam3, WhoAteMyButter, Ttonyb1, Gwen Gale, NawlinWiki, Dan arndt, Liz, and Matthewrb: OK, I hope this is helpful - a timeline of the creation of the article of this name. Please do note that some of the editors mentioned here are no longer active here, and it would be unreasonable to expect them to respond
- initially created in 10 Jan 2009 about about a prison gang
- speedy deleted 10 Jan 2009 under the WP:A7 set of criteria for speedy deletion - this was about the prison gang
- recreated 17 Jun 2012
- speedy deleted 17 Jun 2021 under the WP:A7 set of criteria for speedy deletion - this was about the prison gang
- ↑↑↑↑↑↑ THis is where I got up to last night (my time). I'll write up the rest, and see where we can go for a resolution soon. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:16, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have about 5 to 7 solid sources I can use to draft the article but from what you provided I can't see exactly what was written prior. All I know is I have enough information to set the geographic location, approximate activities and a timeline of the group. Once I finalize this draft will you be able to review it for approval? Keylanweylan (talk) 07:56, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Keylanweylan, Raskuly, Gautam3, WhoAteMyButter, Ttonyb1, Gwen Gale, NawlinWiki, Dan arndt, Liz, and Matthewrb: OK, I hope this is helpful - a timeline of the creation of the article of this name. Please do note that some of the editors mentioned here are no longer active here, and it would be unreasonable to expect them to respond
Notes as of 30 Jun 2026
[edit]- recreated 1 Aug 2022 about about a prison gang by Verde Ojo's (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who was blocked on 11 Sep 2022 for problematic edits related to prison gangs
- deleted 1 Aug 2022 under WP:A7
- recreated 8 Aug 2022 about about a prison gang by Verde Ojo's (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- deleted 8 Aug 2022 under WP:A7 and WP:SALT-ed by me
- * Draft:Border Brothers was created 1 Aug 2022 by Verde Ojo's - again about a prison gang
- * Draft:Border Brothers was deleted 16 Jun 2023 under the abandoned draft speedy deletion criteria
- So I don't think Wikipedia:REFUND would apply here.
- * I've had a little look around in deleted stuff, and can see that Border Brothers (band) and Draft:Border Brothers (band) have never been created. Maybe they could be created? I do note that this notional article or draft would be required to pass the WP:NMUSIC and otherwise WP:GNG tests for inclusion as an en.wp article.--Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:13, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- So, Keylanweylan, is it the gang or band you're looking to create? Raskuly 🐰 14:16, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- The street/prison gang Keylanweylan (talk) 07:19, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
- So, Keylanweylan, is it the gang or band you're looking to create? Raskuly 🐰 14:16, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
CS1 error on Attacks on the United States (2000–present)
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Bold page move of 2025 Stockton shooting
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Your submission at Articles for creation: BloodHound Q50 has been accepted
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Fortek67 (talk) 20:23, 17 September 2026 (UTC)- Thank you for granting me this privilege! I appreciate it
- Do you know how I can access the feature? Its not clear on the article for creation page. Or do I draft and then the option will appear? Keylanweylan (talk) 04:25, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Keylanweylan, I don't understand? I can see your account is autoconfirmed, so you should be able to create articles in the main space without having to go through AfC. Fortek67 (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- I know but I only see the draft button option not a create article option so could you provide me with the sublink? Sorry I am just not super familiar with all aspects of the site yet Keylanweylan (talk) 20:31, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- No worries, Wikipedia:How to create a page has an input box with a button that lets you easily create an article. Alternatively you may click on a red link or search a non-existing page, and you should be able to create it. Happy editing! Fortek67 (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- Hey so i've published my first article but I was never informed that it needed to be patrolled to be indexed. Do you know how I can go about indexing my articles as soon as they are uploaded? Any advice on this would be great Keylanweylan (talk) 11:44, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately you'll just have to wait for your articles to get reviewed. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's slow. Unless, you're autopatrolled, which means articles are automatically reviewed for you as soon as you publish them. For this, you must have published 25 valid articles, and that you understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. After that, you may apply at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled. Fortek67 (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ok good to know, do you know of any way of making the article more accessible in terms of internal linking for article ranking? I know I can use mention this article and incorporate it into others, but I don't want to force a narrative without the right sources Keylanweylan (talk) 13:18, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Forgot to add this is in relation to de orphaning Keylanweylan (talk) 13:19, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Simply add links to said article from other articles, that are related to the subject. You can see all links at the Special:WhatLinksHere tab of the article. For example, BloodHound Q50 is linked from List of hip-hop musicians and List of murdered hip-hop musicians. For the article to not be an orphan, it must have at least one mainspace article linking to it. Fortek67 (talk) 13:46, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just think since the article is too niche there's no main space articles that I could necessarily connect it to without embellishing it. Do you think it's possible for me to submit a different article to get a listing on the main space? One dealing with the broader topic on what I wrote? Keylanweylan (talk) 14:21, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Be bold. I'm not interested in this topic so you may ask more specific questions at the talk pages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Terrorism task force and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Middle Eastern military history task force. Fortek67 (talk) 18:54, 13 October 2026 (UTC)
- Would this be considered a Main space article List of al-Qaeda members - Wikipedia Keylanweylan (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes. All articles are in the main space Fortek67 (talk) 18:51, 13 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just think since the article is too niche there's no main space articles that I could necessarily connect it to without embellishing it. Do you think it's possible for me to submit a different article to get a listing on the main space? One dealing with the broader topic on what I wrote? Keylanweylan (talk) 14:21, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Simply add links to said article from other articles, that are related to the subject. You can see all links at the Special:WhatLinksHere tab of the article. For example, BloodHound Q50 is linked from List of hip-hop musicians and List of murdered hip-hop musicians. For the article to not be an orphan, it must have at least one mainspace article linking to it. Fortek67 (talk) 13:46, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Forgot to add this is in relation to de orphaning Keylanweylan (talk) 13:19, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ok good to know, do you know of any way of making the article more accessible in terms of internal linking for article ranking? I know I can use mention this article and incorporate it into others, but I don't want to force a narrative without the right sources Keylanweylan (talk) 13:18, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately you'll just have to wait for your articles to get reviewed. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's slow. Unless, you're autopatrolled, which means articles are automatically reviewed for you as soon as you publish them. For this, you must have published 25 valid articles, and that you understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. After that, you may apply at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled. Fortek67 (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hey so i've published my first article but I was never informed that it needed to be patrolled to be indexed. Do you know how I can go about indexing my articles as soon as they are uploaded? Any advice on this would be great Keylanweylan (talk) 11:44, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
- No worries, Wikipedia:How to create a page has an input box with a button that lets you easily create an article. Alternatively you may click on a red link or search a non-existing page, and you should be able to create it. Happy editing! Fortek67 (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- I know but I only see the draft button option not a create article option so could you provide me with the sublink? Sorry I am just not super familiar with all aspects of the site yet Keylanweylan (talk) 20:31, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Keylanweylan, I don't understand? I can see your account is autoconfirmed, so you should be able to create articles in the main space without having to go through AfC. Fortek67 (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
I saw your email today not sure if you still wanted help on making new articles. I couldn't read the whole email not sure why it wasn't opening for me on here but I'll be down to help you make an article Aradicus (talk) 15:10, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hey man thanks for responding, I'll lyk when I need help on writing something, I created my first article just now so a peer reviewal would be great! Keylanweylan (talk) 20:30, 7 October 2026 (UTC)
Nomination of Abu Musab al-Adani for deletion
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The article is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Musab al-Adani until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may still edit the article, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the AfD notice from the article until the discussion is closed.October 2026
[edit] Before adding a category to an article, as you did to The Jacka, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 00:16, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Can you explain how the category tag I added is incorrect? I had already verified before adding it and it met the standards delineated in the categorization guidelines. Keylanweylan (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- The guideline at WP:CATDEF says a category is valid if "reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to" it when describing the topic. For your case, the Mobb Music category should be supported by text on the page establishing the musician as a Mobb Music artist. Binksternet (talk) 01:06, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- It is contextually implied by the existing sources on the articles I selected that they are Mobb Music artists, all you have to do is sift through the sources and listen to the songs they created then compare it to the description of the article. Additionally, websites like Genius, RYM, and AOTY list the artists I selected as such on a substantial basis. Also the relevant source used is here and it states 3x crazy is a Mobb music group, also mentioning figures like E-40 and other artists you reverted my edits from. So I'm not sure what your reasoning is here. Keylanweylan (talk) 01:18, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- The NPR source does say that Khayree, Mike Mosley, the Coup and 3X Krazy are mobb. It does not name E-40 as mobb. But such a source must already be written into the page before you can add the category. The mobb category can only come after the page has been established as being in the mobb vein, with text on the page and citations supporting mobb. Binksternet (talk) 04:41, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- How exactly are you supposed to add a citation to a category tag? Do you mean inserting it in the edit description? Keylanweylan (talk) 15:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I mean waiting on the category edit until later. Your first edit is adding the mobb genre to the artist biography page by writing something like "The rapper is also known for his mobb music." After that sentence you add your supporting citation. With all that in place, now you can add the category. Binksternet (talk) 03:03, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ok will do Keylanweylan (talk) 03:35, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- I mean waiting on the category edit until later. Your first edit is adding the mobb genre to the artist biography page by writing something like "The rapper is also known for his mobb music." After that sentence you add your supporting citation. With all that in place, now you can add the category. Binksternet (talk) 03:03, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- How exactly are you supposed to add a citation to a category tag? Do you mean inserting it in the edit description? Keylanweylan (talk) 15:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- The NPR source does say that Khayree, Mike Mosley, the Coup and 3X Krazy are mobb. It does not name E-40 as mobb. But such a source must already be written into the page before you can add the category. The mobb category can only come after the page has been established as being in the mobb vein, with text on the page and citations supporting mobb. Binksternet (talk) 04:41, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- It is contextually implied by the existing sources on the articles I selected that they are Mobb Music artists, all you have to do is sift through the sources and listen to the songs they created then compare it to the description of the article. Additionally, websites like Genius, RYM, and AOTY list the artists I selected as such on a substantial basis. Also the relevant source used is here and it states 3x crazy is a Mobb music group, also mentioning figures like E-40 and other artists you reverted my edits from. So I'm not sure what your reasoning is here. Keylanweylan (talk) 01:18, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- The guideline at WP:CATDEF says a category is valid if "reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to" it when describing the topic. For your case, the Mobb Music category should be supported by text on the page establishing the musician as a Mobb Music artist. Binksternet (talk) 01:06, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Mobb Music groups
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A tag has been placed on Category:Mobb Music groups indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 05:19, 26 October 2026 (UTC)