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Latest comment: 11 days ago by Wikibashi in topic Undiscussed attempted merger

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Happy editing! Lynch44 20:49, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi! thank you for your kind welcome! I'm happy to contribute Wikibashi (talk) 20:52, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Undiscussed attempted merger

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Please do not attempt to merge articles, as you did at Royal stars, without opening an AfD discussion first using Twinkle. If you attempt to do a merge without a discussion, it will almost certainly be reverted. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 11:53, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I disagree with your claim. According to Wikipedia:Merging, editors are not only allowed to but encouraged to make bold edits in the case of content overlap or topic duplication. I created the article for Celestial Generals without realizing Royal stars already existed. Both articles cover the 4 (fifth one missing from Royal stars) celestial divinities of Hoftorang, Vanant, Tishtar and Sadwesh. Perhaps I was incorrect to merge the older article into mine, but the merge itself was certainly not disallowed as you claim.
Since the Celestial Generals was made a short while ago, I will instead merge it into Royal stars as opposed to what I did earlier. Wikibashi (talk) 12:08, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
It would be easier to nominate the newer article for deletion, which I'm going to do so now. You do not need to merge one into the other. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:09, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
I nominated it for speedy deletion under a criterion which allows the deletion of pages duplicating other articles, so that's what I've decided to do. Sorry about that. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:12, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Its fine. I'll work on the Royal stars article instead. Though we could have retained the previous article as a redirect. Wikibashi (talk) 12:16, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
It didn't seem like a plausible redirect. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:17, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
As in, who would search for that instead of the simpler search term? Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:17, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Either way the difference is inconsequential. I have no opposition to your deletion nomination Wikibashi (talk) 12:18, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'll also need your help rewriting some of the content to more directly discuss 'royal stars' rather than 'Celestial Generals'. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:30, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Please do not do that. The older article is making some mistakes here. The majority of the sources in Zoroastrianism refer to them as celestial commanders or "Spahbeds". The wealth of sources I have used should be evident enough.
In fact, I'd argue the article should be renamed to celestial generals entirely, as that is the more appropriate name and framing for the topic. The Babylonian and Assyrian historical developments help explain their origins. Wikibashi (talk) 12:33, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's an RM (Requested Move) on it's own. I suggest you move the article yourself, but you have to ask yourself the question: Will anyone oppose the move? Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:51, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Even then you have to wait for the article you created to get deleted before you can move the other one. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:52, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
I understand. Thank you for letting me know. I will wait for the article to get deleted, then I will move Royal stars. If it is opposed, I'll open a discussion and support the move with sources. I doubt anyone will though. Royal stars is also such an obscure term. I've been reading about Zoroastrianism for several weeks now and never encountered the term. The individual deities and their celestial command quadrants however appear very often, particularly in the scriptures. Its also why I didn't realize a page already existed for them. I think others will agree with my view and I doubt anyone will revert the change. Wikibashi (talk) 12:57, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply

Your contributed article, Celestial Generals

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Celestial Generals. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Royal stars. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Royal stars. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, tagged pages may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can request undeletion. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:10, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply

Oh ahahaha i just saw this. I found the Royal stars by accident moments after publishing my own. Anyways, thank you for your effort. Wikibashi (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome. Feel free to continue with your editing. Theeverywhereperson talk here In solidarity! 12:25, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply